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Article: 12956 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: INPUT Initialization Error
Date: 9 Nov 2001 14:24:52 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <9sfc9v025s2@enews4.newsguy.com>,
Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
: Ok, I think I nearly have this whipped. Your advice has been
: great. If you're up for a bit more, I could stand a sanity
: check.
:
: In particular, I'm unsure about the order of the modem
: configuration commands. I noticed in the K96custom.ini that
: gets installed, that it first sets modem type to "none," before
: applying the tapi parameters retrieved during setup. I guessed
: this was because setting values could trigger code that would
: act on an incomplete configuration. By declaring "none," the
: logic would bypass those reactions?
:
No, that's backwards. The order should be:
set modem type xxxx ; Choose modem type
set modem ... ; Change default settings for that modem if necessary
set port com3 ; DOS-like port
if fail ... ; Check
SET MODEM TYPE first, other SET MODEM commands next, SET PORT after that.
Use SHOW COMM and SHOW MODEM to check the results. In this case Kermit
always does the dialing based on the rules in its built-in modem database
(modem types are listed with "set modem type ?").
If you're using a TAPI device (modem name from the Modems folder in the
Windows Control Panel) instead of a DOS-like port:
set port tapi ; Choose first or only TAPI device (port + modem)
if fail ... ; Check
set modem ... ; Change any modem settings (SHOW MODEM)
When using a TAPI device you can also choose whether Kermit issues the
dialing commands:
set tapi modem-dialing off
or TAPI (the Microsoft modem driver) does it:
set tapi modem-dialing on
You can also give SET DIAL commands to change dialing defaults (SHOW DIAL),
but it shouldn't matter where you put them.
There are no rules about whether to use a DOS-like COM port or a TAPI device,
or to use TAPI or Kermit modem dialing, besides the obvious rule of thumb:
If one way doesn't work, try another; repeat until done.
Other troubleshooting items useful for dialing include:
. SET DIAL DISPLAY ON (lets you watch the Kermit/Modem dialog)
. SET DIAL HANGUP OFF (don't hang up prior to dialing)
Or when DIAL HANGUP is ON, choose the hangup method:
. SET MODEM HANGUP-METHOD RS232-SIGNAL
. SET MODEM HANGUP-METHOD MODEM-COMMAND
This isn't science; we're trying to make a mystery work with a puzzle.
Try different combinations until you get one that works. When you run out
of options, ask for help.
- Frank